tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post3544212479001780167..comments2024-03-28T22:33:29.066-04:00Comments on The Philosopher's Stone: GUEST POST BY PROFESSOR ANN DAVISRobert Paul Wolffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11970360952872431856noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-48336621231018725642010-04-14T15:07:39.147-04:002010-04-14T15:07:39.147-04:00Jim, cacophony indeed! That's why I find the ...Jim, cacophony indeed! That's why I find the "loud logic" so terrifying.<br /><br />Perhaps, with a little help from our friends, we can break out of our own silence and mobilize with a different message...more logical, more democratic, more humane.<br /><br />Perhaps Glenn Beck leaves us an opening when he says things like "leave your church if the minister preaches social justice."<br /><br />Here's hoping....!<br /><br />And thanks for your reply. I find this blog helps too!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02508381261535877414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-61031327806939968822010-04-14T11:10:48.102-04:002010-04-14T11:10:48.102-04:00Professor Davis, your call for effective sound bit...Professor Davis, your call for effective sound bites that the Administration can use to convey their message is spot on. No doubt there are plenty of talented PR people with a willingness to undertake the effort. The key challenge is this: How do you communicate a message to people who don’t always use logic in forming their opinions? More importantly, how do you communicate the message and get it to stick when people who they like, respect, and admire (clergy, pundits, peers) are telling them otherwise? How many discussions have you personally had with seemingly sane, rational people who, no matter the amount of facts you marshal to your cause, hold fast to their view because something or someone (God, Palin, Limbaugh) has told them otherwise? Even if the message were to focus on the general populace and ignore the hard right as a segment of the population whose views will never change, the task still appears daunting amidst all the cacophony.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00826600172627425879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-66661651003359506272010-04-13T16:36:07.768-04:002010-04-13T16:36:07.768-04:00As Jim said, "I can’t believe that the bulk o...As Jim said, "I can’t believe that the bulk of the Tea Party membership are actively debating the pros and cons of Keynesian economic theory versus that of Hayek – and then siding with Hayek." <br /><br />Of course the Tea Partiers are not debating Hayek vs. Keynes...but they understand the market and they see "freedom" in those terms. If given a choice between better unemployment insurance and lower taxes, I believe they would choose the latter. The principles of individualism and competition have trumped social justice...in explicit terms.<br /><br />And such market discipline could be more profitable.....at least in the short term.....so there is some truth to this logic (so called).<br /><br />The left could make a counter argument: there is no profit without educated, healthy people...which we have long since forgotten.<br /><br />Does "people before profits" still have a ring to it? Can we give Obama some sound bites that he can use?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02508381261535877414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-83605934116087242432010-04-13T15:40:17.543-04:002010-04-13T15:40:17.543-04:00Jim, I agree completely. As I have said before, o...Jim, I agree completely. As I have said before, one of Obama's few weaknesses is that he is actually not a very good teacher. He seems not to understand how to see things from the point of view of those he is trying to enlighten, so that he can explain them in a way that will make sense to his audience. Bill Clinton, despite all his manifest faults, is actually rather good at that. It really ought to be easy to do.Robert Paul Wolffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11970360952872431856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-35095001709324789932010-04-13T15:31:56.247-04:002010-04-13T15:31:56.247-04:00It appears that a key problem the Obama Administra...It appears that a key problem the Obama Administration (and the Democratic Party in general) has had is communicating the benefits of Health Care reform. I can’t believe that the bulk of the Tea Party membership are actively debating the pros and cons of Keynesian economic theory versus that of Hayek – and then siding with Hayek. They seem to be more preoccupied with perceived notions of freedom and liberty: they don’t want to be told what is in their best interest, they don’t want to be told what to do. Now, the pro-Hayek elites use this perceived limit on freedoms to whip up the Tea Partiers and thus press forward their own economic agenda (much of which serves to economically disenfranchise many Tea Party members). This leads us to the primary task of the Obama Administration and the Democrats in general: how to articulate in a simple way that health reform and business regulatory reform is in no way a limit on individual freedom. In fact, it will eventually lead to greater economic freedom.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00826600172627425879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-11044614775423664112010-04-13T05:19:47.539-04:002010-04-13T05:19:47.539-04:00Thank you Ann, I`ll endeavour to find those New Yo...Thank you Ann, I`ll endeavour to find those New York Times editorials and find links from UK press relating to Alice and friends(I prefer to think of tea parties in a joyous, Carroll-esque mode)<br />I`ll paste those in the UK although there will not be a great deal.NotHobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09443644930695303411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-52672813200212392742010-04-12T20:11:58.985-04:002010-04-12T20:11:58.985-04:00If you are asking for references, Frank Rich Op Ed...If you are asking for references, Frank Rich Op Eds on the dates 2/14/10 and 3/28/10 in the New York Times are insightful...Or are you the sort of person who prefers Google searches or the websites of the Tea Party itself? <br /><br />Or interpretive comments might include advocates of a (further) right wing shift within Republican Party. <br /><br />It would also be interesting to hear the ways in which it is visible there too. :-)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02508381261535877414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-23854116602335866672010-04-12T18:41:08.744-04:002010-04-12T18:41:08.744-04:00As a frequent visitor to this blog, I feel that I ...As a frequent visitor to this blog, I feel that I should know so much more about this Tea Party movement. <br />Perception at moment is based upon what little media coverage there is here, and unfortunately that includes despicable scenes of protestors spitting, lunatic rants and profanities. I`m quite certain that such a large scale movement(it does rear it`s head here quite often, so must be significant) cannot possibly be solely comprised of every bedlam escapee in the States, so can somebody please enlighten me as to this groups aims objectives etc?<br />Many thanksNotHobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09443644930695303411noreply@blogger.com