tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post1037892032430185865..comments2024-03-29T03:19:09.227-04:00Comments on The Philosopher's Stone: IS IT SOMETHING IN THE WATER?Robert Paul Wolffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11970360952872431856noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-77183881911209284232010-03-25T15:12:32.010-04:002010-03-25T15:12:32.010-04:00I think memes provide the best explanation. They ...I think memes provide the best explanation. They are political in the sense that policies and events provide a ground for their operation, but they are psychological in the sense that they operate almost entirely independently of the actual effects of the policies that ground them. <br /><br />The discourse could operate largely unchanged with radically different policies. Take wealth distribution for example. Most Americans probably have no idea what the numbers actually look like, but nonetheless have a strong opinion about whether tax policy should be more less progressiveJack's Fated Contingencyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01509824219360879730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-30956907075685339022010-03-25T08:54:09.994-04:002010-03-25T08:54:09.994-04:00Much of the fear and anger does seem to be based i...Much of the fear and anger does seem to be based in insecurity and resentment. The Republicans are simply mad because they lost. I think, in a lot of ways, both parties are out to do simply defeat the other party rather than what they honestly feel is best for the nation. It is politics, after all (not that they don't ALSO have good intentions, otherwise we'd never see any changes).<br /><br />The other argument against it that I'm seeing is one grounded more in a difference of philosophical belief. It's simply 'this is wrong on principle' and has to do with individualism. And the economics of accomplishing this goal. These people aren't very upset as they've been dealing with the same thing over and over again since the beginning.<br /><br />Boy, I'd give just about anything for this to have happened while I was studying Rawls & Nozick (the class discussions would have been epic). I don't know that, during my own lifetime, I've ever seen anything so perfectly aligned with the difference principle. I am a bigger fan of Nozick than I am Rawls, and thus not much of a fan of this bill. It's certainly not the end of the world. Socialism it is not, but it does play in favor of corporatism.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04761368861648629477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-9711038268280094662010-03-24T12:49:25.175-04:002010-03-24T12:49:25.175-04:00Memes, mantras, whatever, are merely rationalizati...Memes, mantras, whatever, are merely rationalizations of the moment to express the unease of their users. They simply fasten onto the current fashionable expressions of resentment. To cite a few: the Know-nothings, Isolationists, Red-baiters, Father Feeney's antisemitic campaign in Boston; I'm sure there are more that simply haven't come to mind yet.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02636727394832760278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-35013456074117833832010-03-24T12:29:55.839-04:002010-03-24T12:29:55.839-04:00Whether "meme" or "mantra," pl...Whether "meme" or "mantra," please add "free market," in spite of the fact that the largest U.S. corporations dwarf many countries (quibble:the federal government does not establish corporations, due to the fears of centralization in 18th century U.S. politics.... States do...then subsequently fortified by the U.S. Supreme Court).... :-)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02508381261535877414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-25736752298895063842010-03-24T12:29:37.205-04:002010-03-24T12:29:37.205-04:00I believe financial, educational, and social resen...I believe financial, educational, and social resentments can go back generations and are received as givens by the current generation whether or not they still <br />pertain to its present circumstances. Maybe an inheritance of the "I've got mine and the hell with you" feeling. I have no research or citation basis for this other than personal observation, so please feel free to argue.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02636727394832760278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-47548962832310646522010-03-24T12:15:51.889-04:002010-03-24T12:15:51.889-04:00Memes. That's it. Memes. Viruses of the mind: ...Memes. That's it. Memes. Viruses of the mind: tax and spend, socialism, big government, Blacks will steal your women, free choice (as in, you know, "Let them eat cake"), freedome to choose (as in, "Bankruptcy or death").Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06338078632530539703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-66004398809469514922010-03-24T11:59:42.600-04:002010-03-24T11:59:42.600-04:00I freely grant that Ann's second explanation c...I freely grant that Ann's second explanation construes the hysteria as fostered by covertly rational intentions, and I am always sympathetic to such explanations. But at best, this explains the willingness of Republican legislators and presidential hopefuls to fuel those sentiments. It does not account for the sentiments in the first place. [Can one Tea Partier in a hundred actually explain what the Articles of Confederation were? Can they square tem with thw role of the Fderal Government in establishing joint stock corporations as the centerpiece of modern capitalism? I think not.]<br /><br />I am inclined to think Brenda is correct, but I would dearly love to understand more deeply, and in more detail, the nature and origins of their insecurity. I am not sure, but I do not think the Tea Party movement has its roots in what we used to call the petty bourgeoisie. Compare the origins of Hitler's support in the last days of the Weimar Republic.Robert Paul Wolffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11970360952872431856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-14313818172234960442010-03-24T11:43:30.904-04:002010-03-24T11:43:30.904-04:00Their problems are psychological, not political. T...Their problems are psychological, not political. They are insecure, therefore threatened by change Their political opinions are too self-contradictory for any other explanation. Political attitudes generally have an emotional basis in all parts of the spectrum, left, right, and middle.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02636727394832760278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5687347459208158501.post-85640803361244226512010-03-24T10:49:13.304-04:002010-03-24T10:49:13.304-04:00If they are rational at all, I see two possibiliti...If they are rational at all, I see two possibilities: 1) they see the Articles of Confederation as truly superior to the Constitution of 1787; 2) They want to raise the level of hysteria in the public so as to reduce the legitimacy of the federal government, by whatever means necessary...because the federal government is the only vehicle capable of providing public goods and equalizing income and economic opportunity(both of which undermine market discipline in their view).Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02508381261535877414noreply@blogger.com