Those of you who read the comments posted on this blog will
have noticed that Chris, who is among the most of the regular commentators, can
be counted on to call me to account for my lapses from radical Marxist
purity. I welcome Chris' comments, which
I find intelligent and stimulating and provocative. I figure if I am not willing to have people
take swings at me, I ought not to hang myself up in cyberspace as a piñata. Chris' latest animadversion was provoked by
my recommendation that readers take a look at Paul Krugman's blog. He and I had the following exchange:
Chris: I don't mean this in a hostile sense, but I cannot fathom how one
can appreciate a Keynesian blog, when one is a Marxist in economics. Marx shows
in Vol II and III that consumer consumption is the pinnacle of economic health.
Me: Oh
come on ! I admire Smith and Ricardo, I think Keynes' insights were valuable, I
read and enjoyed Michael Oakeshott, as well as Max Weber and Emile Durkheim and
Karl Mannheim, none of whom was a Marxist. I do not think Marx would have
considered Krugman a "vulgar economist," his term for the
time-servers who made lousy arguments offering ideological rationalizations of
capitalism [not ever a term he applied to Smith and Ricardo, by the way.]
Chris: I think that analogy is not quite
correct. Or, at the very least, It's not addressing what I meant. I'll confess
I was not clear, so I shall clarify. I
too enjoy many of the authors you've mentioned, and appreciate their insights,
but so far as I can tell, those authors were developing theory, whereas - the
few times I've read Krugman's blog and the MANY times I've read his NYTimes
op-eds - Krugman is applying an already developed theory to particular
problems. And it's in that regard that I can't quite fathom why one would enjoy
his writing. In the same sense that if one applied Lamarckianism every few
weeks to breakthroughs in biological science, the insights would be
unfulfilling and incorrect, albeit reading about the development of Lamarckian
theory is quite fascinating. On the off
chance you've never read it, Michael Roberts has a fan[ta]stic Marxist
economics blog, that wrestles with current events. As does Richard Wolff.
This exchange raises some interesting and
important questions, I think, for all that it may sound to many like really
inside baseball. The first question is
political, the second intellectual or theoretical. I think Chris is mostly interested in the
latter, but since a number of his previous comments have raised the former, I
will discuss them both.
The political question is this: In our efforts to change our corner of the
world, to push it in a more progressive direction, even in a truly
transformative direction, should we or should we not make on-going alliances with
all those who are, generally speaking, more to the left than to the right in
American politics? I believe we should,
indeed that we must if we want to accomplish anything at all. I sense, though he has never said so, that
Chris would disagree. [Look back at his
repeated excoriation of me for supporting Obama.] My belief has two roots or sources. The first is my pained awareness, reinforced
by a long life of disappointments, that in this country there are precious few
people who share my view of the world to such a degree that I can comfortably
call them comrades. Since I do not for a
moment believe that a transformation in America can be carried out by a
"vanguard," a cabal, a tightly knit band of political warriors [nor
does Chris, I suspect], I am left to look for alliances, however hedged round
with contradictions, that number in the scores of millions, not in the scores.
The second source of my willingness to make alliances
with those who do not share many, if any, of my deeply held convictions is my
awareness that I have led and still lead a privileged life far removed from the
material want and social, political, and police threats that make the lives of
so many in this country miserable. I
believe that it would be inappropriate, indeed intolerable, for me, from my
perch of privilege, to judge that incremental improvements in the lives of
others are not worth fighting for because they do not constitute genuine
revolution. So I supported Obama,
because he was clearly, in my view, superior to McCain and Romney. So, too, I supported Gore, and if it comes to
that, I will support Hilary Clinton. Is
it really for me to say "a pox on both their houses" and to tell
those who have just lost their unemployment insurance that they must make do to
preserve my ideological purity? I think
not.
The second question raised by the exchange
between Chris and me is theoretical or intellectual. How can I find anything of interest in Paul
Krugman's blog when he interprets the world from a theoretical perspective that
I think is mistaken? That is a really
interesting question, and it deserves a longer answer than I can provide here,
but let me sketch my response. The
analogy to Lamarck, though witty, is, I think, not apt. By the way, with this post, you might take a
look at the piece called "Envy versus Anger" that Krugman posted
yesterday.
Perhaps I can make my point succinctly [and in a way that
Chris might find sympatico] by a
reference to the famous Allegory of the Cave in Plato's Republic. You will recall
that Socrates asks us to imagine a cave in which there sit, chained to the
floor, a number of people who stare at a wall illuminated by the light from a
fire. A parapet obscures the lower part
of the wall, and behind the parapet, between the fire and the wall, servants
carry objects, whose shadows are thrown on the wall as they are moved from one
side of the cave to the other. These
shadows are all that the chained observers see, and they devote an inordinate
amount of time to trying to guess which shadows will appear next. We may call these shadow guessers economists. Over time, some of them become quite skilled
at anticipating which sequence of shadows.
We may think of these especially expert trackers of shadows as
neo-classical economists, among whom are disciples of one of the best guessers
ever to come along, an old shadow guesser named John Maynard Keynes. One of the chained shadow watchers grows
suspicious of this endless show. He
manages to free himself from his chains and laboriously makes his way out of
the cave into the where he discovers, brightly illuminated by the light of
reason, the real objects that lie behind the shadows. He rushes back into the cave to tell his
fellows what he has seen, but despite the eloquence of his reports, they laugh
at him and go back to their shadow guessing, for which they have become famous
and well remunerated. We may call this dissenter
from the regime of the shadows Karl Marx.
If one has listened to Marx, why on earth spend one's time
listening to Krugman? Why read the
writings of even the best of the shadow guessers?
Well, this is a bit complicated, and it is here that the
analogy with Lamarck breaks down. Marx
insisted that we must understand "the laws of motion of capitalist
economy" not only in order the better to predict their supercession by the
laws of socialism, but also because we live, unavoidably, in the realm of
appearances in which those laws rule, at least for the present. Unlike Lamarck, who was just wrong about the
inheritance of acquired characteristics, economists like Krugman really are
quite good at figuring out what makes things tick in a capitalist economy. They may not think that capitalism ought to
be replaced by socialism. They might not
even think that is possible [I cannot quite tell about Krugman, by the
way]. But they can provide a useful
guide to such matters as the probable effect on the economy of regulation of
the financial sector or a higher minimum wage. And -- this is the important point -- if you agree with my answer to the
first question discussed above, if you choose to try to make incremental
changes in the world as it presents itself to us, then the insights of a
Krugman are extremely useful. Plato, you
will recall, with a sorrowful irony, acknowledges that the lone escapee from
the regimen of the cave may, when he returns, be a less accurate guide to the
succession of the shadows than those who still believe they are the only reality.
So, Chris, that is how I can appreciate a Keynesian blog
when I am a Marxist in economics.
Dear Professor Wolff.
ReplyDeleteFirst let me thank you for the blog and everything else. You've been a light and an inspiration.
Now, perhaps the gap between you two can be narrowed, since it has been suggested (half-seriously) that Krugman may slowly be moving towards Marx. Hence the apparition of the hashtag #RedKugmanRising on Twitter. Apparently, Krugman's references to Michal Kalecki are one clue. Another would be his move from Princeton to CUNY... And Krugman has said before that he has radicalized since his younger days. So he may be getting there...
I e-mailed Wolff a response to this post. I leave it to his discretion to respond, or not.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, to the best of my memory when Krugman was asked if he would be on board with socialism, he said that his socialist supporters would be upset to learn how conservative he really is.
ReplyDeleteThis was my point. If we do not want to join forces with the Paul Krugmans of this world, what earthly hope do we have of putting a coalition together that can move the country to the left? Unless you are planning violent revolution or are waiting for the heavens to fall, you are going to have to work with people whose political orientation is to the right of Krugman, let alone with Krugman.
ReplyDeleteIt's quite simple. Yes I agree with Krugman on his conclusions (regarding progressive reform), I just disagree with the premises that lead to those conclusions, and consider them to be demonstrably false. So we will join forces until those premises are in conflict. But, I also think that so long as we operate under false premises, we will have 'unforeseen' outcomes, that are only foreseeable with the right theoretical premises (e.g., yes let's raise wages, but let's expect the rate of profit to fall, don't expect a healthy economy).
ReplyDeleteI really think I'm being either pigeonholed or made into a strawman...
:(
A question for Chris (I am not taking sides in your discussion, btw, I am just trying to understand your position.).
ReplyDeleteChris, you state:
"... I cannot fathom how one can appreciate a Keynesian blog, when one is a Marxist in economics. Marx shows in Vol II and III that consumer consumption is the pinnacle of economic health."
I am little confused by the paragraph above. Keynes emphasized consumer demand as determinant of business cycle fluctuations (as Krugman does, btw). If "consumer consumption is the pinnacle of economic health" in Marx's Capital, as you said, then wouldn't that meant that both thoughts are close (at least on this subject)?
Then, wouldn't that mean that Keynesianism is not necessarily incompatible with Marxism?
Awful typo. I meant is 'NOT' the pinnacle of consumer health.
ReplyDeleteAs I understand Marx, the Keynesian impetus to increase wages would actually hurt the amount of value that could be produced and would thus lead to a fall in the rate of profit (presuming many other variables are held equal).
Here's a short blog article on why these two people are not compatible.
http://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2013/08/22/marx-versus-keynes-in-the-summer/
@ Chris,
ReplyDeleteThanks for that!