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Monday, March 18, 2019

A RESPONSE TO TALHA


In the midst of a quite complimentary, indeed even fulsome [in the original sense] reference to me, Talha says this:  “Why Prof. Wolff should despise Hegel so much is a fun mystery!”  Talha goes on to note that I draw insights from and praise the work of Karl Mannheim, Herbert Marcuse, and others who were themselves deeply influenced by Hegel.  So what’s up with my hate on Hegel?

I think it is worth replying, not merely to clarify my personal preferences [a rather minor matter, after all], but to spell out my views on how one ought to do philosophy, which may be of interest to a slightly larger audience.

Personal matters first.  I hate Hegel because he makes relatively clear ideas obscure, whereas I have spent the last sixty years trying to make difficult and puzzling ideas as clear and transparent as I am able.  I freely acknowledge that Hegel had some interesting ideas.  I just can’t stand reading his exposition of them.  So sue me.  I don’t like Mahler either.

Now let me try to be a bit more serious.  I was introduced to philosophy at a relatively early age [from sixteen to nineteen] by a group of very gifted philosophers in what was then called the analytic tradition:  Willard Van Orman Quine first, then Nelson Goodman, after that Henry Aiken and Morton White, and then most importantly of all, Clarence Irving Lewis.  By the time I was old enough to get a driver’s license, I had internalized standards of clarity and precision that have stayed with me to this day.  Some were rather trivial: never to confuse use and mention, always to make sure I had the same number of left and right parentheses in a logical formula.  Some were a good deal more important: always to struggle to say what one had in mind as simply and transparently as possible, never to be satisfied with a metaphor that I could not, if called upon, cash in for a literal assertion.

Quine and Goodman and White struck me as supremely intelligent but lacking a certain moral urgency, a deep conviction that what they were doing was important as well as interesting.  It was in Lewis that I, at the age of eighteen, found a satisfying combination of intelligence and moral passion.  To this day, I cherish his comment on the term paper I submitted to his graduate seminar in epistemology.  I had written a paper on Hume, ripping various of his more questionable claims to shreds.  Lewis treated my efforts very gently, and after remarking that "in this paper, it would be out of place to ask that [the points] should 'add up' to something in conclusion," he wrote, "I should hope that this general character of the paper is not a symptom of that type of mind, in philosophy, which can find the objection to everything but advance the solution to nothing."   If I could be described, rather extravagantly, as having had a revelation on the road to Damascus, that was it.

Once I began my own philosophical work, I was guided both by the demand for clarity and precision and by Lewis’ inspiration.  My first major effort was a struggle to come to terms with the Critique of Pure Reason.  I could chop logic with the best of them, but I sought, like Gandalf in the Caves of Moria, to dive deep and struggle with the Balrog to discover the argument lying at the heart of Kant’s great work.  Like Jacob, I wrestled with the book and would not let go until it bless me.  I insisted [and here the voices of Quine and Goodman spoke to me] that what I found within it must be stated by me in clear, precise English, capable of being presented in the shape of a valid formal argument without losing the depth of Kant’s insights.

I brought the same need to Das Kapital, which was, I found, much more difficult to cope with because to succeed I needed to deploy not only the resources of philosophy, economics, mathematics, and history but also the insights of literary criticism.  I brought the same need for both clarity and depth to the writings of Mannheim and Marcuse, in  both of whose works I found insights and arguments of great power.

When I read the writings of Gerald Cohen, Jon Elster, and the other so-called Analytic Marxists, I found that they had achieved clarity and precision at the expense of Marx’s deepest insights, a disappointment I expressed in my essay on Elster [to be found in Box.net].

I can easily imagine that were I to bring to Hegel the same generosity of spirit that has animated me in the reading of these other authors, I would find much to value.

But you must allow an old man his crotchets.



19 comments:

Howie said...

Professor Wolff:

Might Kant's lack of clarity be mainly due to how he is getting to the bottom of murky epistemological issues and is very inward and caught up in the murk of the mind? Quine is difficult, or so I gather because of his precision and level of abstraction, but he thinks like a scientist, whereas there is something, I daresay poetic and obscure in Kant.
Did you ever wonder what Kant would say about your take on his work?

Richard Moran said...

About 'fulsome', well, it's complicated:

When Samuel Johnson, working in England, made his entry for fulsome in his famous 1755 dictionary, he recorded only the meanings “nauseous; offensive” and “of a rank and odious smell.” Noah Webster’s entry is very similar in his 1828 American Dictionary, but he added a curious note:

These are the English definitions of fulsome, but I have never witnessed such applications of the word in the United States. It seems that full and foul are radically the same word, the primary sense of which is stuffed, crowded, from the sense of putting on or in. In the United States, the compound fullsome takes its signification from full, in the sense of cloying or satiating, and in England, fulsome takes its predominant sense from foulness.

Webster’s assertion that full and foul share etymological roots is incorrect. Full comes from the Old English word that was spelled the same way, whereas foul comes from the Old English word fūl, meaning “rotten.” However, Webster adds an entry for fullsome:

Gross; disgusting by plainness, grossness or excess; as fullsome flattery or praise.

Webster created an entry for a different word when he should have simply added a definition of fulsome. The fact that neither Johnson nor Webster included the oldest meaning of the word (“copious”) shows that it had fallen from use during their lifetimes, and so by the 19th century it was established as a literary term chiefly expressing disapproval of excessive and obsequious praise and flattery—exactly as Webster had defined it.

Robert Paul Wolff said...

Well done, Richard. I was using the term self-decprecatingly in the last mentioned sense, but I confess I had no idea about its complex history.

Chris said...

Professor Wolff,
I'm citing your reviews of the analytic Marxists in my thesis quite favorably! :)

My primary worry though - and this is not for a moment to doubt your personal gift at writing - is that any attempt to process Marx through the lens of contemporary analytic philosophy is a mistake. You're certainly right that in trying to render Marx simple and coherent the analytics lost track of his deeper insights (egregiously at times), but I also worry - and this is the case with ANY older philosophers - that filtering them through our lens always risks losing something in translation. I.e., Marx has more to tell us then we have to tell him.

Because I think it's a mistake, one is then required, unfortunately, to go through Hegel, who probably is the worst writer ever, but introduces the lexicon, categories, and concepts, required to ascertain Marx.

LFC said...

I don't agree w Chris inasmuch as I think one can understand Capital without having read Hegel (or Ricardo, for that matter). Might be helpful but isn't necessary. And btw there are some well-known secondary works on Hegel (e.g. by Charles Taylor and Shlomo Avineri, just to mention two) and while not a substitute for the original they may suffice for various purposes.

LFC said...

P.s. Actually on second thought knowing something about Ricardo is prob more helpful re Capital than knowing a lot about Hegel. That's one of the things at any rate that I took away from RPW's Marx lectures.

LFC said...

I see from the other thread that Chris is finishing a dissertation on Marx's theory of exploitation, so prob a mistake to get into a discussion of Marx w him...

Paul Kern said...

Good God, you don't like Mahler!!! You probably don't like Bruckner then either?! I can't stand Eine Kleine Nachtmusik ... so take that!

talha said...

Thanks Prof. Wolff. I was about to cavil with some counter-examples but rather than offer than as objections it occurs to me that they are better seen simply as further cases of agreement. I take each of these to be an instance of you doing (very very well) precisely what you claim not to be interested in doing! Namely, rendering Hegel in prose. To wit: (a) your stylized historical account of the development of individuals-in-society (or being and consciousness) at the end of _In Defense of Anarchism_; (b) your account of irreducibly relational or social goals in your critique of Elster; and (c) your underlining of the rise of "society" as a distinct object of analysis in modernity (alongside the "man" and "nature" of antiquity). These are all, I would say, the rendering with crystalline clarity Hegelian insights.

So perhaps the mystery is not why you despise Hegel, but why you think do and say you do! And for that your answer seems to me just right! Since, of course, the "analytical" tradition in philosophy was born in reaction to Hegel (more precisely, in Russell's reaction to McTaggart).

(I don't mean this at all offensively--I completely agree with the virtues of precision, clarity and rigor; I only think, as you do, that they should not come at the expense of significance and depth. Not, I should hasten to add, that I take depth to be a license for obscurities--that way lies precisely the pseudo-profundities of obscurantism that I also despise in much (not all) of the "continental" tradition. But I'm willing to cut Hegel some slack, on account of taking him to (re-)birth some fundamental and very deep insights in modernity. See, e.g., Robert Pippin, who does for Hegal what you do for Kant!)

Dean said...

I can understand Mahler being an acquired taste. Bruckner, too. Mozart, not so much, but only once one discovers one generally enjoys Western classical music.

Christopher J. Mulvaney, Ph.D. said...

A note to Chris,

When I was an undergrad history major I approached my advisor and said I was interested in reading Marx. I asked what works of Marx and what secondary literature he would suggest. He gave some rather sage advice: start at the beginning and work your way through. The young/old Marx controversy was still going strong then. When I had plowed through the Paris Manuscripts, Holy Family, German Ideology, Grundrisse, it was pretty clear that the aforementioned controversy was a crock and arose accidentally because the timing of publication the early works a couple of decades after the orthodoxy of scientific Marxism had taken hold. Scientific Marxism was going to have a hell of time integrating the young Marx into its orthodoxy!

Avoiding the filters of secondary lit. and competing schools of thought doesn't mean you can avoid the filters we acquired during our upbringing, but it does force one to deal with the author in his/her terms. Reading Hegel in advance of Marx may help, but is not, I believe, necessary. Marx makes clear his meanings of terms that draw from Hegel, and he surely makes his thinking about Hegelian idealism clear with clarity and humor in the Holy Family and elsewhere. The 'Absolute Fruit' discussion pairs up nicely with his section on bad abstractions in the Grundrisse.

I hope you will post the link to your dissertation when it is complete. Good Luck!

Chris

jgkess@cfl.rr.com said...

Tahla, "...crystalline insights of Hegel". No such there are. Walter Kaufmann had the last word on Hegel, as he did on Heidegger. Aristotle birthed "analytical" philosophy, not Russell's take on McTaggert.

Anonymous said...

Would love to hear more about Clarence Irving Lewis.

talha said...

jgkess@cfl.rr.com:

Three small points:

First, to present "...crystalline insights of Hegel" as a direct quote from me is not only wrong but mendacious.

Second, congratulations on your self-appointed role as determiner of "true" meanings, but it is standard to use "analytical philosophy" as a term of art referring to turn of the (20th) century philosophy tracing to the works of Frege, Russell et. al. Here are two standard references:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/analysis/s6.html

https://www.iep.utm.edu/analytic/

Third, my name is spelt "Talha."

As for (what little remains of) the rest, it's clear you're not someone to engage with.

Anonymous said...

I’d like to add Allen Wood’s “Hegel’s Ethical Thought” to some of the Hegel secondary literature cited by others. He makes plenty of sense of Hegel’s ethical and social philosophy, and he’s not a Hegel-minion. Wood has written various books on Kant and (at least) one on Marx, too, and thinks that Marx wasn’t hard enough on capitalism. (If anyone cares about what Wood has to say about Marx, there’s an interesting interview with him on the 3 AM webzine.) I’d also like to take issue with one commenter’s claim above that Walter Kaufmann had “the last word” on Hegel (and Heidegger, to boot), and that Kaufmann had a low opinion of Hegel (as he certainly had of Heidegger)—Hegel was devoid of insights, etc. That’s nonsense. Kaufmann’s 1965 “Hegel” is a largely sympathetic and appreciative interpretation of its subject. The last three sentences of the main text (before the long section of translations) of Kaufmann’s book run as follows: “Few will find their favorite philosopher in him. I, for one, do not. But there are not many who offer us so much.” --Fritz Poebel

Chris said...

Talha, as an aside, I always found Pipping to be remarkably harder to read than Hegel himself! Houlgate is good though.

jgkess@cfl.rr.com said...

Yes, "Talha", your "three" "points" are "small". Look, I view this as just back and forth good fun---for the delectation of our worthy host. Nevertheless, I shall retreat, having been properly chastened.

talha said...

Well I apologize then, but it certainly didn't come across as just good fun. (Nor does, frankly, this response of yours either!) In any case, sorry and hope there's no hard feelings.

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