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Wednesday, November 17, 2021

A RESPONSE TO SOME COMMENTS

The responses to my interim book report have persuaded me that it might be worth spending a few minutes expanding on this notion of the intelligence of supposedly “primitive” peoples. Especially among people like us (by which I mean formally highly educated people who place great store by book learning), the term “intelligence” is so freighted with evaluative significance that it requires a genuine effort to step back from a consideration of SAT scores and academic performances and think about intelligence in a broader and more interesting fashion.

 

It takes a good deal of thought and knowledge to fix a car engine or to select just the right piece of wood from which to make the body of a fine violin or to decide when and on which side of the hill to plant a crop, but save when we are being self-consciously condescending, folks like us do not have that sort of activity in mind when we talk about intelligence.

 

For the last 2500 years or so in Western philosophy, one of the most valued marks of intelligence has been the capacity to use and to understand ironic discourse. That is what lies at the heart of many of Plato’s dialogues, as well as the writings of Kierkegaard, to name only two of my favorite philosophers. So let us talk about irony for a bit.

 

Irony rests on the distinction between appearance and reality, a central idea in Western thought for the last 2 ½ millennia. Ironic discourse presupposes the existence of a double audience – a real audience, to whom the ironic remark is actually directed and an apparent audience which mistakenly believes that it is the true recipient of the remark. The speaker in ironic discourse knows that there are two audiences and says something which is intended to be understood by the real audience and misunderstood by the apparent audience. What is more, the speaker relies upon the real audience to know about the existence of the apparent audience and to know that the apparent audience is mistakingly interpreting the utterance. Thus, the ironic utterance is a kind of private joke between the speaker and the real audience at the expense of the apparent audience.

 

Rather than citing a classic example from a Platonic dialogue, let me give you the example I invented to explain this notion in a college philosophy textbook that I wrote almost half a century ago. For reasons that will become obvious, the editors got nervous after the example appeared in the first edition and had me substitute a less provocative example for subsequent editions. Here is the original example that I thought up.

 

A young man and young woman are having a hot affair, something they must keep secret from the young woman’s parents, who are very religious Protestants who would be horrified at the thought that their unmarried daughter was sexually active. One evening, the young man comes to the young woman’s home to take her out, ostensibly to a church social but actually to his apartment for sex. The mother is waiting for him at the door and as they leave, she says to her daughter “Now young lady, be home by 10 PM and be a good girl, do you hear?” “Yes, mama.” the daughter replies. The couple go off to the young man’s home and make passionate love until it is time for him to bring her home. The mother is waiting at the door when they arrive and asks the daughter, “Were you a good girl?” “Oh yes,” the young man replies for her, “she was good. She was very good.”

 

The young man’s reply is an ironic utterance, misunderstood by the mother who thinks that it is directed at her and is an assurance that they have behaved themselves properly, but correctly understood by the young woman as praise for her sexual prowess. It is a private joke between the young man and the young woman at the expense of the mother.

 

Irony requires a complex and completely conscious self-awareness of social situations, their meanings, and the various ways in which they can be understood and misunderstood. It is arguably one of the most sophisticated modes of discourse and a mark of mature deliberate conscious self-awareness. In my YouTube lectures on Ideological Critique, I spent some time talking about two examples of ironic discourse engaged in by individuals whom white Westerners mistakenly considered naïve or unintelligent or lacking in the sophistication acquired at Oxford or Yale. The first example came from Edwin Wilmsen’s fine book Land Filled with Flies. The second came from Henry Lewis Gates’s book, The Signifying Monkey. Gates mocks his sophisticated former literature professors at Yale University by showing that West African peoples had a complex elaborated self-conscious literary theory that the slaves brought with them to the New World and that took up residence in the various forms of verbal play and their musical analogues that are called “signifyin’.”

 

Graber and Wengrow, in their effort to refute the claim that domesticated agriculture is the necessary precondition for the development of city life, political structures, and a variety of other marks of cultural sophistication, offer many examples from the anthropological literature of peoples who either deliberately reject agriculture as a way of getting their food or else routinely go back and forth between agriculture and foraging, all the while exhibiting playfully self-aware attitudes toward rulership that, in the the authors' view, demonstrates a thoughtful self-conscious awareness of the significance of rulership and its benefits and drawbacks.

 

Now, necessarily these examples come from the relatively recent past although they are supplemented by archaeological evidence of societies dating back 10 or 15,000 years whose remains suggest similar sorts self-awareness. The principal purpose of the authors, as I understand it, in presenting this mass of evidence is to demonstrate that even today we have options and choices and are not locked into the present political structure of developed states by some law of social evolution. But along the way, their evidence also supports the hypothesis that human beings 10,000, 50,000, or 100,000 years ago possessed a conscious self-awareness which, although they do not make this point, would support the belief that those people were among other things capable of ironic discourse.

 

Now, it strikes us as odd to think of a small group of Homo Sapiens 100,000 years ago sitting around the fire speaking ironically. But that is probably because we have never met people in the year 100,000 BC. I remind you that it struck men who had recently been slaveowners equally odd in the years of Reconstruction to imagine a group of black men sitting in a state legislature passing laws.

20 comments:

s. wallerstein said...

Irony generally occurs when there is a distance between the official discourse and reality.

In the case of the young couple, the official discourse prizes chastity, while the reality is that they are sexually active.

In the case of slaves or African-Americans living in a racist society, the official discourse is white supremacy and the reality is that blacks are the intellectual equal of whites.

In both cases which I mention, if those who use irony, the young couple or blacks, speak openly of what really occurs, they may be punished.

Now if prehistoric society was as equalitarian as is claimed above, I don't see any reason why prehistorical people (was prehistoric society equalitarian for both genders, ?for gays?) would need to resort to irony since first of all, there would be no contradiction between the official discourse and reality and second of all, there would be no punishment for straying from the official discourse.

marcel proust said...

Before reading S. Wallerstein's comment above, I was about to respond to the post, "Sounds positively Straussian" (such as I understand it).

Having read the comment, I have to wonder why Strauss would have engaged in that and why philosophers in the western canon would have (presuming that Strauss was correct)? What was the punishment they feared? It seems, rather, that elites might well have engaged in such behavior to enhance their own sense of superiority, i.e., their vanity. No reason, then, to believe that those living in a more egalitarian situation would not have sought reasons to feel superior to others around them.

aaall said...

Since all other versions of the Great Apes are political and status seekers to some extent I don't understand the assumption that our far distant ancestors were way more egalitarian then present societies and those in the recent past. I would guess that irony became a thing as soon as language progressed sufficiently to support it.

The first person to translate an understanding of leverage into an atlatl was probably quite intelligent, ditto fire, flaking, and smelting. Those who followed and were equally intelligent were freed for some next step.

Michael Llenos said...

Men & women sitting around a campfire 100,000 years ago using irony as a form of social discourse? I never thought of that even after watching the Flintstones a thousand times as a kid. Is there anything new about irony these days in our present culture? The only thing I can think of is that irony should be used with caution these days since it can be a target of the cancel-culture groups.

s. wallerstein said...

With regards to what aaall says about the great apes being political and social status seekers, in my experience in groups with egalitarian principles, where there are no official leaders, the most dominating and status seeking members quickly assert their power over others and in fact, their domination tends to be more authoritarian than that of offical leaders who are elected through the normal boring mechanisms of representative democracy and thus, are constantly seeking to please potential voters and at least pretend to be "nice" guys (of all and every gender).

Another Anonymous said...

Although I do not always agree with the remarks and positions expressed by AOC, I have to say this is one of the finest examples of responsible oratory that I have seen in a long time.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/11/17/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-rep-gosar-violent-video-house-floor-sot-nr-vpx.cnn

marcel proust said...

Another response to another comment by s. wallerstein, which in combination with that of aaall put me in mind of some lines of Robert Sapolsky's:

Stanford neuroscientist Robert Sapolsky [says] that people, apes and monkeys are highly intelligent, social creatures with far too much spare time on their hands.

"Primates are super smart and organized just enough to devote their free time to being miserable to each other and stressing each other out," he said.

...

"The reason baboons are such good models [for his biomedical studies of stress] is, like us, they don't have real stressors," he said. "If you live in a baboon troop in the Serengeti, you only have to work three hours a day for your calories, and predators don't mess with you much. What that means is you've got nine hours of free time every day to devote to generating psychological stress toward other animals in your troop. So the baboon is a wonderful model for living well enough and long enough to pay the price for all the social-stressor nonsense that they create for each other. They're just like us: They're not getting done in by predators and famines, they're getting done in by each other."

I imagine our ancestors, sitting around a campfire, using irony just to make one another other miserable. Most likely, intelligence evolved for just this reason.

aaall said...

"...social creatures with far too much spare time on their hands."

With easy access to food and leisure, perhaps really early megalithic structures happened because, "why not?" Competition ensued as well as just so stories.

Howie said...

Left out in Professor Wolff's book report is the spiritual life of our precocious ancestors and the fact well known from modern times that animal impulses can coexist with the higher life of the mind.
I have the book and I will read it.
However all speculation is fascinating
We just can't do an ethnography of people who lived two hundred thousand years ago.
We just can't

LFC said...

m. proust @12:37 p.m.

Particular writers could have had various motives or reasons for hiding their meaning, I suppose, depending on the historical context, but Strauss's view that philosophers wrote only for a small, select group capable of reading between the lines and sussing out the real meaning is, of course, highly elitist -- in addition to being questionable on empirical grounds.

Also, I think, respectfully, that you may be missing something here, which is that there is a difference between engaging in irony, as defined in the post, and engaging in "hidden writing" or whatever Strauss called it. As RPW defines it, an ironic utterance is a kind of private joke between the speaker and the "real" audience. The key word is "joke," as irony often involves a kind of humor or an intent to be wryly funny (as in the story of the young couple). By contrast, the philosopher who (allegedly) engages in so-called hidden writing need not have any intent to be humorous, I think.

There are many critiques of Strauss and his ideas, but one classic one is Myles Burnyeat's piece "Sphinx Without a Secret" in the New York Review of Books a long time ago (I'm not bothering to look it up or dig out the hard copy I probably have in a file somewhere). (p.s. You may recall that there was some some increased interest in Strauss around the time of the run-up to the Iraq invasion in 2003, due to the presence of some prominent Straussians in and around the G.W. Bush admin.)

LFC said...

P.s. I'm sure Strauss has come up here before, and I have a deja vu feeling that I've written something similar to my comment above before.

Achim Kriechel (A.K.) said...

I remember a scene from the 1981 film "La guerre du feu" by French director Jean-Jacques Annaud (wow, that was 40 years ago).

It's about a very small group of early humans who are not yet able to start fires on their own. They only ever take fire, which is absolutely essential for their survival, from burning trees after a lightning strike. Then they guard it in a kind of container made of branches and bushes like the Catholics guarded their Ostensory thousands of years later. There is even an official who is responsible only for securing the flame.

Abstract: The drama begins with the loss of the flame which immediately brings that small group into existential distress. The plot now shows how a group of three individuals is sent out to retrieve the "eternal flame". They finally succeed because they encounter a village where people live as settlers who already have the ability to make fire. These settlers, in turn, have another problem, that of inbreeding. So a deal is struck. Fresh genes for the knowledge of how to make fire.

Ok, a movie and a script and of course we know it's a nice story that forces a little more reality on us than the scientific facts might allow. But one important aspect becomes clear. The "Ironic Turn" does not allow to continue to look exclusively after the cathegories of evolutionary biology when it comes to the way of man. The fire meant not only progress and expansion of opportunities, but also dependence and new necessities. Intelligence, as the ability to respond to the challenge of nature, is forced to respond also to the consequences of its own actions.

If the "state of nature" of the ironic animal, to which we give the name Homo sapiens sapiens, were to be compared with the thermodynamic equilibrium in physics, then the keepers of the fire, who can probably be called hunter-gatherers, and the settlers who practice agriculture and animal husbandry, would be on a higher level in relation to this equilibrium. Higher level means greater complexity and a greater effort to keep the achieved state stable, which is undoubtedly a greater challenge to their intelligence.

aaall said...

Ayn Rand once observed that the individual who figured out how to make fire was likely burned at the stake.

AA, Perlman's SOA was a way more apt comment on the human condition.

Ed Barreras said...

“Freighted” instead of “frought”?! Always the contrarian!

Another Anonymous said...

Above I posted a link to Congresswoman AOC’s eloquent condemnation of Rep. Gosar’s depiction of him beheading AOC and killing President Biden, and her denunciation of the Republican members’ pooh-poohing Gosar’s conduct as a “joke.”

Well, in the final vote which censured Rep. Gosar, only 2 Republicans supported the resolution to censure Gosar – Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger - 213 Republicans – 213 Republicans!! – refused to vote in favor of the resolution. As Congresswoman AOC stated, it is a sad day in our country when elected officials cannot bring themselves to condemn depictions of one Congressman murdering another Congresswoman, as well as the President of the United States, and, instead, find such despicable conduct acceptable. None of us knows where this country is headed, but it does appear that the country as lost its moral compass, to a degree far worse than anything that happened during the Nixon administration and Watergate.

Another Anonymous said...

The idiots who oppose the vaccination mandate should be told the sad story of the actress Gene Tierney, who starred in the movie Laura, among other films. In 1943, Ms. Tierney, who was then married to the fashion designer Oleg Cassini and pregnant, attended a war bond rally to raise money for WWII. A fan approached her, asking for an autograph, which Tierney graciously provided. The fan was infected with the rubella virus. Tierney’s daughter was born deaf, partially blind, and severely mentally disabled, and had to be institutionalized. Howard Hughes, a friend of Tierney, paid for the daughter’s medical care for her entire life. The experience devastated Tierney. Years later, the fan approached Tierney and confessed that she had violated medical isolation in order to see her favorite actress. It is reported that Tierney slapped her face.

Christopher J. Mulvaney, Ph.D. said...

Dr. Wolff,
I must confess to have stolen that joke on numerous occasions. One fun part of using it was expanding the discussion from the mother failing to get the real meaning to her understanding the real meaning when it came to the girl across the street. You can always sneak a little Freud into the discussion!

aaall said...

"None of us knows where this country is headed..."

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2021/democracy-under-siege?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Weeds%2011-19-21&utm_term=The%20Weeds

Unless one is a fascist, the trend isn't your friend.

David Brooks of all people actually had an interesting take on the recent National Conservative convention in Orlando:

"...In these circumstances the right has to use state power to promote its values. 'We need to quit being satisfied with owning the libs, and save our country,' Dreher said. 'We need to unapologetically embrace the use of state power.”

https://digbysblog.net/2021/11/18/the-nat-con-threat/

After all, the Jews had too much power. What choice did the Germans have? The jury in Kenosha just acquitted on all counts and thereby endorsed private militias and vigilantism. This doesn't end well.

Another Anonymous said...

The Ritterhouse verdict confirms what AOC stated in her condemnation of Gosar's "joke" and the Republicans' refusal to censure him - the violence depicted in a cartoon trickles down to the general pubic as accepting and endorsing the use of violence to vindicate personal grievances.

If the three defendants being tried in Georgia are also acquitted, all hell is going to break loose.

Anonymous said...

aaall,

Thanks for the links. Troubling commentary.