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Sunday, November 6, 2022

ANOTHER FROM MY FILES

 I thought you might find this one of historical interest.


The Farrakhan Fiasco:

The UMass Amherst Reaction to Louis Farrakhan’s Visit


Seven months ago, on March 9th, Minister Louis Farrakhan came to speak at the University of Massachusetts Amherst. An audience of roughly two thousand listened to a three hour speech that was, according to most reports, lively, informative, inspiring, and forceful.

The university administration's reaction to Farrakhan's visit can charitably be described as hysterical. A month before Minister Farrakhan was scheduled to speak, the Chancellor, David Scott, assembled most of his senior administrators and a good many faculty and staff at his home for a lengthy strategy session, after which he issued a two-page statement in which he delicately balanced his commitment to the Constitution and the ideals of free debate against what he described as the ugliness of Farrakhan's message and the pain it could confidently be expected to cause among what he tastefully referred to as certain "communities."

In the face of Farrakhan's visit, which it clearly viewed in roughly the way medieval Europe viewed the approach of the armies of Ghengis Khan, the administration mobilized the entire university. The March 4 issue of the Campus Chronicle, under the headline "Programs, Workshops Pose Counterpoint to Speech," described some of the defensive measures prompted by the impending threat to the university community: A two-week video series on the Housing Services Cable Network "spotlighting the Jewish and African-American cultures"; a workshop for faculty, teaching assistants, residence directors, and student leaders on "Leading Difficult Discussions" guided by three representatives of the Social Justice Education Program; two meetings at the offices of the university Ombud at which trained student mediators from the Multicultural Student Conflict Resolution Team would provide "an opportunity to listen to concerns, issues and feelings related to the Farrakhan speech [before the evening of the speech, note]; an afternoon lecture entitled "Talking About Race, Learning About Racism,"; a session that same afternoon on "Beyond Blacks and Jews: How Students Can Be Allies for Each Other"; another session, the next afternoon, entitled "Anti-Semitism: What's It All About"; and finally, on the night of Farrakhan's visit, a protest co-sponsored by the Newman Center, United Christian Foundation, Episcopal Chaplaincy, Hillel, and other groups.

Grant Ingle, director of the campus's Office of Human Relations, described clearly and rather revealingly the purpose of this extraordinary flurry of activity. "This isn't simply a controversial speaker coming that we have to suffer through," he said. "It's also an educational opportunity." The question explored at meetings he attended was, he said, "how can we come together as a campus in responding to a controversial speaker like Louis Farrakhan?" [Daily Hampshire Gazette, February 11,1994, p.9]

This image of the members of a university community facing a controversial speaker shoulder to shoulder, rather like wildebeest turning to confront a marauding lion, is rather startling, to say the least, as is the notion that controversy on a university campus is a trial to be "suffered through." But that is not the focus of my observations today. Nor shall I address the substance of Farrakhan's remarks, inasmuch as I did not attend his lecture, and know about it only through a partial transcript, the accounts of several of my students, and fragmentary newspaper reports.

My interest in the Farrakhan affair can be summed up in two words: Why Farrakhan? Why was the university thrown into panic by the prospect of a Farrakhan visit? Why did the entire administration, from the Chancellor on down, treat an announced lecture as a threat to the safety, the sanity, the integrity, the very life of the university community? What does this reaction tell us, not about Farrakhan, but about those who run the university? And, inasmuch as the university's reaction to Farrakhan, however bizarre, was of a piece with the reaction of many other American institutions, officials, and individuals to Minister Farrakhan, what does this affair tell us about significant segments of American society?

The administration's answer to these questions can be inferred easily enough from the opening lines of the statement issued by Chancellor Scott a month before the lecture:

The messages from Mr. Farrakhan's organization are prompting intense discussions and deep soul-searching not only among the communities which feel directly the pain of the hate and stereotypes from those messages but also among various quarters of the African American community.

It is to be expected that the same discourse and emotions would take place on our campus at the news of the impending visit of Mr. Farrakhan at the invitation of students.

But this cannot possibly be an adequate explanation of the university's reaction. It is a principle of reason widely understood and well established that what counts as a good reason in one case must count as a good reason in all relevantly similar cases. Now, there are many, many speakers whose messages cause pain to members of the university community and prompt intense discussions in various quarters - speakers who defend the theses of Sociobiology, for example; speakers who celebrate the fall of communism, or the virtues of the free market, or the Christian promise of salvation; speakers who call for "the end of welfare as we know it," or advocate the death penalty; and speakers who insult the intelligence and mock the sufferings of the poor by claiming that in a capitalist economy workers are paid a wage equal to their marginal product.

All of these speakers, and many more, prompt intense discussions and deep soul-searching among the communities which feel directly the pain of the hate and stereotypes from those messages, and yet the Chancellor is not moved by the prospect of their appearance on campus to pull up the drawbridge, lay in provisions for a siege, call emergency strategy sessions at his home, and issue statements to the university community.

My colleague, Michael Thelwell, put his finger on the essential point in a follow-up article printed by the Valley Advocate a week after Farrakhan's visit. Thelwell was asked by the Advocate reporter, "The basic question is, What is your response to the Farrakhan lecture?", and his reply was, "What is your interest in writing about this? Why are you writing about it?"

Michael was not merely being puckish, though he is perfectly capable of that. His point was that the reaction of the entire university and newspaper community to Farrakhan's visit was so disproportionate to the event as to call for an explanation. Clearly, there are certain as yet unidentified differentia that distinguish Farrakhan's visit from all others. What might they be?

The answer appears quite simple: Farrakhan had in the past made statements attacking Jews, among others, statements which others considered ugly and exaggerated. But that cannot possibly be the end of it, because countless speakers make statements that others find ugly and exaggerated.

There are in fact two reasons for the special response to Farrakhan. One of them was perfectly well understood by everyone involved in the affair, though it was not considered acceptable to mention it. The other is equally obvious, though perhaps not so readily available to the self-consciousness of most members of the UMass Amherst community.

The first reason, of course, is that there are well-organized groups of American Jews who have succeeded in getting institutions such as UMass to treat their personal concerns as politically important, regardless of any actual threat to their legally protectable interests. Neither the Nation of Islam nor any other African-American organization or grouping poses any real threat to the interests of American Jews, regardless of what their representatives may say in public speeches. The members of the UMass Amherst Jewish community who protested Farrakhan's visit have no grounds to fear that his language will be transformed into actions inimical to their interests. But they have succeeded in getting others to treat their personal distress or outrage as a fact of such public significance that an entire university campus must be mobilized to provide a context for their distaste for Farrakhan's

Contrast this situation with the reaction of those on welfare for "the end of welfare as we know it." Those statements, uttered in quite socially acceptable language by everyone from the Governor on up and down the political hierarchy constitute an immediate threat to the well-being of welfare recipients. Mothers already struggling simply to feed and clothe themselves and their children must daily face the real and imminent threat of cuts in their support payments, or even a termination of support all together. Since I am not myself a mother on welfare, I cannot pretend to speak for those who are, but an abstract consideration of the matter suggests to me that at least some mothers on welfare find such statements ugly and offensive. Would the Chancellor mobilize a month of defensive seminars and training sessions in preparation for a campaign visit from Mitt Romney or William Weld? I imagine not.

Lest it strike you as too outré to take notice of the sensibilities of welfare mothers, consider an example closer in substance to the Farrakhan affair - the sociobiological attempt to justify the discriminatory treatment of African-Americans. The "pain and the hatred from the messages" of the late Richard Herrnstein, of E. 0. Wilson, of William Shockley, and of countless other socially respectable academics, is felt quite as keenly in the part of the university community I inhabit as any caused by Farrakhan's speeches, yet no strategy sessions have been called at the Chancellor's house to counteract those effects.

The political power of the official Jewish community in America is, of course, not unique. It is a general fact about American public life that there is a sharp distinction between those groups whose interests possess political weight, and hence are accorded respect by governments, by universities, by media commentators, and even by the courts, and those other groups whose interests, however intensely felt, fall outside the realm of public acknowledgement.

The distinction is dynamic and fluid, changing over time in response to political struggle. The greatest victory any group can win in American politics is the fight to become one of the officially recognized interest groups, whose private sensibilities and substantive interests are accorded political significance. One of the striking changes of the past fifteen years or so has been the dramatic decline in the ability of the African-American community to win or preserve political weight for its interests.

I said that there were two reasons for the special response to Farrakhan's visit. The second is that for a very long time in America, white society has found it necessary, at any given moment, to demonize one or two Black leaders, as the price for allowing the rest to enter the circle of social and political acceptability. Having enslaved, oppressed, and exploited people of African descent, whites in America quite reasonably fear an angry response. So they encourage docility, submission to their laws, a willingness to talk, and most of all a commitment to non-violence in those who emerge as leaders in the Black community. Above all else, they cherish and celebrate those leaders whose behavior, speech, and demeanor demonstrate that they look to the white community for validation or approval. Nothing is more threatening than Black leaders who seem more concerned with the approval of their own followers than with admission into the clubs, restaurants, study groups, commissions, universities, or symposia of whites.

In each age since before the Civil War, we can find one or a few Black men and women - more often men than women, interestingly enough - who are seen as outrageous, unacceptable, evil. One of the odder aspects of this familiar phenomenon is that a previous generation's demon may, by a curious metamorphosis, join this generation's pantheon of honored Black leaders. W. E. B. Du Bois was demonized in this fashion during the time when Booker T. Washington was the white man's favorite Negro. Malcolm X stood in as demon during Martin Luther King, Jr.'s apotheosis. We remember faintly, with some bemusement, that King was attacked both for his opposition to the Viet Nam War and for his unconscionable attempt to transform a safely Southern voting rights struggle into a fight for economic justice in the slums of Chicago. And in one of those extraordinary miracles of self-conscious self-delusion, by which history is stood on its head, we now make movies and television specials about Malcolm in which, through the very act of reminding ourselves how thoroughly he was once vilified, we somehow tell ourselves that he was, all along, a tame, proper, acceptable Negro, fit for inclusion in syllabi of even the most inoffensive college curriculum.  

In the end, the Farrakhan fiasco at UMass Amherst is a lesson not in language, but in power. It is a lesson in the power of the Jewish community to win protected status for its sentiments and sensibilities, and in the inability of the Nation of Islam to win the same status for its concerns. It is, of course, also a lesson in the ability of excluded groups to play on the phobias of those within the circle of acceptability, so as to win a degree of attention they would otherwise be unable to command.

In addition, the Farrakhan affair reminds those of us who need reminding of the effort by the white community to deny to the African-American community autonomy in the choice of its leaders. Even such moral monsters as William Bennett, John Silber, George Will, Pat Buchanan, Phil Gramm, Newt Gingrich, and Pat Robertson, who, given their way, would inflict unimaginable suffering on tens of millions of Americans, are treated with respect and forbearance by the arbiters of American social acceptability. One cannot imagine the University of Massachusetts mobilizing itself to "suffer through" a visit from any of these gentlemen.

As always, speech is the garb in which power conceals itself. And the charge of uttering offensive speech is a disguised call for the repression of a group whose interests are a threat to those with power.

Since the Farrakhan affair was about power, not language, and since all politics, as the late Tip O'Neill reminded us, is local, let me conclude with a wonderfully clear and self-aware statement by one of the students who invited Farrakhan to the campus. In the Advocate interview quoted earlier, Mike Thelwell concluded with these remarks:

[T]he students have a legitimate - and this is the most saddening part - need. Those who invited him do in fact feel marginalized on this large white campus. At a public discussion before he came, I asked, "why do you do it?" One student said, "there is this facade and rhetoric of cultural diversity, but there is no real discussion of conditions in our communities, and we thought Farrakhan would do that. When we bring other speakers no one pays attention, it's business as usual. We invited Farrakhan and now the President returns our phone calls and there is discussion in every area of the campus.

 

48 comments:

Barney Wolff said...

Some juvenalia should be suppressed by one's older and presumably wiser self.

Countering the ravings of a rabid racist, while allowing him or her to speak, seems to me to be a perfectly proper academic custom. That the racist happens to be Black, and pick Jews as his target, does not excuse him or make countering him improper.

Robert Paul Wolff said...

Barney, I thought about that a good deal before deciding to post the essay. I was certainly not excusing him but I was making what I think is an important point about the ways in which established institutions like universities decide what is and is not deserving of the sort of response that the appearance of Farrakhan provoked.

Marc Susselman said...

With all due respect, Prof. Wolff, I feel compelled to take issue with your perspective regarding Minister Farrakhan’s presentation at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, some years ago and the administration’s reaction which you equate to hysteria. There was then, and there continues to be, a double standard in this country and abroad when it comes to expressions of anti-Semitism versus of expressions of Black racism. I question whether you would have been equally complacent about and welcoming of a proposed presentation by David Dukes at the University, a presentation which would undoubtedly have been permeated with expressions of offensive Black racism which would have generated outrage among the Black student population, faculty and administration, and demands that the proposed presentation be cancelled. Would you have condemned such calls for the cancellation of Duke’s presentation as “the disguised call for the repression of a group whose interests are a thereat to those in power”? I think not. You would have rationalized it as the justified indignation of a minority which has historically suffered oppression and suppression at the hands of the likes of David Dukes. Well, have not Jews suffered oppression and suppression over history at the hands of anti-Semites like Minister Farakhan?

Your assertion that the hostile reaction to Farrakhan’s visit was not based on legitimate “fear that his language will be transformed into actions inimical to their [Jewish] interests” has proved false. The expressions of anti-Semitism by Farrakhan and his ilk have resulted in blatant acts of discrimination and retaliation against Jewish students on numerous college campuses. See, e.g., https://www.adl.org/resources/report/adl-hillel-campus-antisemitism-survey-2021; https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-718238; https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/antisemitism-on-campus-is-rising-were-rising-to-confront-it/; https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/05/14/metro/some-jewish-students-feel-ostracized-college-campuses-over-support-israel/. The double standard which is being applied globally to the increased expressions of anti-Semitism versus expressions of racism towards Blacks is amply analyzed and discussed in David Baddiel’s recently published book, “Jews Don’t Count.” It has also been demonstrated in Ann Arbor where a group of protesters have been picketing a synagogue every Saturday morning for over 18 years, using the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as an excuse to use such signs which state such things as, “Resist Jewish Power”; “Jewish Power Corrupts”; “No More Holocaust Movies” (haven’t we heard enough of Jewish whining over the Holocaust?). Yet the City of Ann Arbor has failed and refused to enforce a sign ordinance which prohibits the placing of any signs, regardless of subject matter, in the public right-of-way, where these anti-Semitic protesters have been placing their signs every week for over 18 years, placed where the congregants who enter their synagogue to pray cannot avoid seeing them. If the Ku Klux Klan picketed an African-American church every Sunday morning, using signs which included the N- word, and placed such sign in the public right-of-way forcing the church’s members to see them, I have no doubt that there would be a public uproar and a demand that the City enforce its sign ordinance. But its okay to harass Jews for 18 years as they enter their sanctuary, conduct which the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals held, in a lawsuit I filed, was protected by the 1st Amendment, without once addressing the question why the City was not required to enforce its sign ordinance, which, since it prohibited all signs, regardless of message, could have been constitutionally enforced without violating the protesters freedom of speech.

There is a double standard afoot, and it is getting worse. So I reject your assertion that opposition to Farakhan’s speech was unjustified and amounted to mass hysteria.

s. wallerstein said...

I agree with Professor Wolff.

When I was an undergraduate, I belonged to a group (I can't recall the name), which invited controversial speakers to the university, in the interests of free speech and of stirring up controversy (why not?) in an atmosphere of conventional moral wisdom.

I recall that we invited someone from the Mattachine Society (a group which defended gay rights, well before the subject of gay rights became mainstream or even mentioned on the left), Gus Hall (then general secretary of the U.S. Communist Party) and George Lincoln Rockwell, head of the American Nazi Party.

Jewish groups picketed Rockwell in protest and I didn't go to hear him talk, not out of protest but because Nazis bore me (I once tried to read Mein Kampf and found it tedious) and not only listened to the gay rights guy and Gus Hall, but also, being the token comsymp in the group, was in charge of greeting Hall and making sure he felt comfortable.
No problem.

Marc Susselman said...

s. wallerstein,

Not surprisingly, I find your comment vacuous. Is all speech of equal merit and value? Does speech in favor of the rights of members of the LGBTQ community, and in favor of communism, have equal value with speech by Norman Rockwell, Minister Farrakhan, and David Dukes which denigrates a particular ethnic or religious group? Are we incapable of making the distinction out of concern that we will start slipping down a slippery slope which will undermine freedom of speech? As Justice Holmes stated, we must tolerate speech, even the speech we hate, but must we also facilitate it? Many who have commented on this blog have expressed concerns about the lies which Trump has been promulgating, lies which have succeeded in persuading many to support his inglorious cause, to the point of endangering our democracy. Some have supported his being banned from Twitter, out of concern that his lies may obtain too much traction. How can we justify censoring Trump’s lies, at the same time as claiming that all speech – even hate speech expressed at a college or university where discernment and objectivity are supposed to be promoted, not hate or racism – must be tolerated in the interests of – what, fairness?

s. wallerstein said...

Marc,

I rather like Norman Rockwell's art, so please be kinder with him.

Obviously, not all speech is of equal merit, but I don't see why Farrakhan can't speak on a university campus.

As for Trump and twitter, twitter is a company which has every right to exclude whom they please.

As to whether a university should invite Trump to speak? As long as he does not incite to riot as he did in January 2021, sure.

I believe that Mill in On Liberty draws the line at inciting to riot. Otherwise, according to Mill, all speech should be permitted.

Marc Susselman said...

My apologies to Norman Rockwell, whose art, especially the Four Freedoms, I also admire. I of course meant to refer to George Lincoln Rockwell.

Regarding the incitement to violence standard, this is an ex post facto standard. How does one know in advance that a speaker’s speech will, or will not, incite violence, other than by evaluating its content?

I would echo Justice Jackson’s dissent in Terminello v. Chicago, that we had best be careful in our wholesale promotion of freedom of speech, lest we turn the First Amendment into a suicide pact.

John Rapko said...

The point that the professor makes about the political gulf between officially recognized interest groups and the unrecognized, and so politically invisible, suffering of all other non-elites is also important in his The Poverty of Liberalism, where he treats it as part of the routine 'poverty' of liberal politics.--Perhaps any contentiousness between commentators could be mitigated if everyone joins Farrakhan, once a calypso singer going by the name of 'Louis X', in singing his hit 'White Man's Heaven is a Black Man's Hell': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-vElPV6onw&ab_channel=reelblack

aaall said...

While Malcolm X was vilified, etc. he was also capable of change and growth. Farrakhan not so much. He also said this the year before the Amherst speech:

"We don't give a damn about no white man law if you attack what we love. And frankly, it ain't none of your business. What do you got to say about it? Did you teach Malcolm? Did you make Malcolm? Did you clean up Malcolm? Did you put Malcolm out before the world? Was Malcolm your traitor or ours? And if we dealt with him like a nation deals with a traitor, what the hell business is it of yours? You just shut your mouth, and stay out of it. Because in the future, we gonna become a nation. And a nation gotta be able to deal with traitors and cutthroats and turncoats. The white man deals with his. The Jews deal with theirs."

Farrakhan, Coulter, Milo Yiannopoulos, etc. I've never understood the value these malign clowns bring to any venue.

Barney Wolff said...

Victimhood does not confer saintliness. The question is whether we should make allowances when victims become oppressors, or advocate oppression of others. I certainly don't believe we should make more fuss about Black antisemites than white ones. But also, not much less fuss.

This question is obviously very relevant today, with significant consequences for antisemitic rants by Ye and Irving. But there are some blatantly antisemitic white Republican candidates about to discover, tomorrow, whether there are similar consequences.

If a university provides a campus venue to a speaker with noxious views, and it attracts a sizable audience, what if anything should the university do to make clear that it does not endorse those views? Should it simply repeat its commitment to open discussion? That rather strikes me as verging on the equivalent of the Oval Loser's (in)famous statement that there are "very fine people on both sides."

Marc Susselman said...

Tonight, 60 Minutes had a segment discussing the nefarious influence which the various social networking platforms are having on freedom of thought and speech. It offered as an example the treatment of Harvard faculty dean and law professor Ronald Sullivan, Jr. Prof. Sullivan decided to join the legal team defending Harvey Weinstein against charges of sexual harassment. Many Harvard students were outraged regarding his personal choice to defend Weinstein, a choice which he did not promote in class or on any social networking platform. The students launched a social media campaign against him, demanding that Harvard strip Sullivan of his appointment as dean and terminate him. What did Harvard do? Did it tell the students that every American accused of a crime is entitled to the presumption of innocence and to be defended by lawyers who wish to protect that presumption? Did it tell the students that recriminating and insulting a law professor on social media is not acceptable conduct at Harvard? No, it did not. It succumbed to the students’ demands and decided not to renew Prof. Sullivan’s appointment, along with that of his wife. You can read about it at the link below:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/06/harvey-weinstein-ronald-sullivan-jr-lawyer

So, on the one hand we have the expression of certain hate speech being defended and protected under the 1st Amendment, whereas other speech, which does not constitute hate speech, is being condemned and not protected. The thought police on the left and on the right are running amok in our country, and the 1st Amendment is being politicized and butchered in the process.

s. wallerstein said...

Barney,

I remember and you do too the era when we were the ones being censored, cancelled and not allowed to speak in universities or anywhere else.

Now that we and people who accept us control elite universities and the large segments of the most prestigious mass media, should we censor them?

You say "yes" because our ideas are good and their ideas are toxic, but isn't there the danger that in censoring what we consider toxic ideas, we become toxic ourselves?

Maybe there aren't "very fine people" on either side.

Let a thousand flowers bloom even if some of them look like weeds to you!!

Marc Susselman said...

s. wallerstein,

Cute metaphorical sleight of hand there. Flowers, botanical or otherwise, are flowers, and weeds are weeds, and it is not that difficult to differentiate between them, be they botanical or cognitive. Speech promoting anti-Semitism, or discrimination against Blacks, is a weed, and does not deserve to be facilitated by offering it a platform. It is not difficult to distinguish such speech from speech protecting the rights of members of the LGBTQ community, or the right of citizens to be members of the Communist Party, and to suggest that they are indistinguishable and that their beauty resides in the sight of the beholder is promotes incoherence and sophistry. Your metaphorical turn that they are all flowers is dangerous. You also exaggerate what you claim was past censorship. During the Vietnam War, verbal opposition to the war was not censored. The violence occurred when students barricaded themselves in administrative buildings and began destroying property, including the research of professors. In fact, the Supreme Court ruled that a person had the right to wear a jacket with the message “Fuck the Draft” and reversed his conviction. There is a vast difference between this speech and shouts of “Jews Will Not Replace Us,” and your advocacy on behalf of their equality does a disservice to freedom of speech.

Marc Susselman said...

Clarification/correction:

I forgot about Kent State. But that tragic event was the result of skittish National Guardsmen panicking. It was not official policy, and the State of Ohio and its governor were condemned by the Supreme Court in Scheuer v. Rhodes, 416 U.S. 232 (1974).

LFC said...

Marc
To clarify (and a glance at Sullivan's Wikipedia entry, which I just looked at, will confirm this), here are the bare outlines of what happened in that case.

The undergraduate houses (residences/dorms) at Harvard have faculty members who live in them as the "heads" so to speak. They used to be called Masters; now they're called Faculty Deans. Sullivan and his wife were Faculty Deans of Winthrop House. Following the controversy over Sullivan's being on Weinstein's legal team, which also included unrelated allegations about the Winthrop House "environment" under his deanship, the Dean of the College did not renew Sullivan's and his wife's appointment at Winthrop House.

This had no effect on his academic appointment at Harvard Law School, and he is still a professor there. What he lost was his administrative appointment in one of the undergraduate houses. His professorship at the law school, which is covered or protected by the norms and rules of tenure and academic freedom, was not affected.

This is not necessarily to defend what happened to him, just to clarify the facts.

LFC said...

P.s. On the main issue here, my instincts are more in the direction of free-speech maximalism, like s.w. But I don't have time today to get into this at any length.

s. wallerstein said...

Marc,

We both grew up in the McCarthy era. School teachers and university professor suspected of being communists or communist sympathizers were persecuted, lost their jobs and were cancelled.

What's more, the U.S. was very puritanical. Books like Henry Miller, Jean Genet, Allan Ginsberg, William Burroughs and even Lawrence's Lady Chatterly's Lover were banned in some states and did not appear in public libraries. Books that are now classics.

I was against censorship of all kinds then and I am still am. When I first read Mill's On Liberty as a college student, I saw it as a left position and never imagined that we on the left would end up censoring or cancelling others.

As I said above, like Mill, I exclude inciting to riot or to violence against people or property.

Anonymous said...

“Regarding the incitement to violence standard, this is an ex post facto standard. How does one know in advance that a speaker’s speech will, or will not, incite violence, other than by evaluating its content?“

One could also not have anticipated at the time that his rhetoric would necessarily lead to the alleged abuses that you have mentioned.

Marc Susselman said...

LFC,

Thank you for the correction. The article I read and linked to stated that Prof. Sullivan’s appointment was not renewed, which I interpreted, erroneously, to refer to his appointment as Professor of Law.

s. wallerstein,

All of the censorship bans you refer to have been reversed. All the books are available, and have been available since the late 1950s. Sen. Joe McCarthy (not to be confused with Sen. Eugene McCarthy) had his come-uppance by 1954, when he was denounced and exposed by Robert Murrow and Joseph Welch, the attorney who confronted McCarthy and asked him, “Have you no sense of decency? At long last, have you no decency?” He died of alcohol related hepatitis in 1957. The literary works you referred clearly qualify as literary “flowers” and are readily distinguishable from the weeds proliferated, for example, in the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” published by Henry Ford.

Anonymous,

Below are some samples from Minister Farrakhan’s speeches:

“Those who call themselves ‘Jews,” who are not really Jews, but are in fact Satan: You should learn to call them by their real name, ‘Satan;’ you are coming face-to-face with Satan, the Arch Deceiver, the enemy of God and the enemy of the Righteous.” — Saviours’ Day speech (part 2), 2/26/17

“To my Jewish friends, I shouldn’t use the word ‘friends’ so lightly, you have been a great and master deceiver, but God is going to pull the covers all off of you.” — Saviours’ Day speech (part 2), 2/26/17
“When you want something in this world, the Jew holds the door.” — Saviours’ Day speech, 2/25/18

“Do you know that many of us who go to Hollywood seeking a chance, we have to submit to anal sex and all kinds of debauchery, and they give you a little part? The couch where you have to sit, it’s called the ‘casting couch.’ That’s Jewish power.” — Speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, Illinois, 5/27/18

“You and I are going to have to learn to distinguish between the righteous Jew and the Satanic Jews who have infected the whole world with poison and deceit.” — Speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, Illinois, 5/27/18

There is a direct line from these virulently anti-Semitic comments to the harassment and discrimination which Jewish students are experiencing on numerous college and university campuses today. There is absolutely no excuse or justification for any American institution of higher education to provide Farrakhan a platform for his vile expressions of hatred, and refusing to give him such a forum does not constituted censorship, since he obviously has many other venues at which he can spout his nonsense.

Post-script:

I just lost a close chess match against a Ukrainian player ranked 200 points higher than me. As I was about to resign, I sent him/her a message congratulating his country on its defense against the Russians and urging them to give the Russians hell.

s. wallerstein said...

Marc,

If I have to opt, I'll accept that a committee formed by you, Barney Wolff and aaall
censor bigots and rightwing fanatics rather than let a committee formed by Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson and Minister Farrakhan censor leftwingers and free thinkers.

Until that day I'll continue advocating that nothing be censored and no speaker be cancelled unless they directly incite to violence as Trump did in January 2021.

Howard said...

My first reflex was to attack Farrakhan right back. I hesitate because of how hard it is for the rest of us to imagine how harsh it is to be a Black American. Slavery hasn't really ended in a real sense for many Black Americans. Why should he turn the other cheek? America as we are witnessing today can be a brutal as Hell place.
My guess as to why he singles out the Jews is that we are vulnerable and wee were the model minority in an Enlightened America, and though there is some displacement involved, I can see, definitely all Jews just like most Whites who have a presence in the ghetto are either oppressors or exploiters, with few exceptions.
It's not like I want to downplay Anti-Semitism, especially in the shadows of the Shoah as it is as Reagan might say darkness is falling in America; but there must be a way to agitate for justice for Farrakhan without succumbing to his misplaced lashing out.
If we as Jews want racial justice we have to deal with Farrakhan, as a leader of men and not just as someone who is enemy of the Jews

Marc Susselman said...

s. wallerstein,

I'm on it.

Barney and aaall, want to form a Committee to censor bigots, racists and anti-Semites like David Dukes and Minister Farrakhan?

Marc Susselman said...

Howard,

Your comment disgusts me. It is the typical response of the ultra-liberal Jew who has this obsessive need to prove to the world how fair-mined s/he is, willing to turn the other cheek to all who abuse and insult them. On what basis do you state, “I can see, definitely all Jews just like most Whites who have a presence in the ghetto are either oppressors or exploiters, with few exceptions.” How many ghetto landlords do you know? How many Jewish landlords do you know? So, the fact that Africans were brutally and wrongly enslaved gives their descendants the right to be racist and anti-Semitic in retaliation? Leader of men? He is a vile, anti-Semitic racist. Stop trying to make excuses for him and his ilk How many more people are there out there like you? Lord help us.

Anonymous said...

“There is a direct line from these virulently anti-Semitic comments to the harassment and discrimination which Jewish students are experiencing on numerous college and university campuses today. There is absolutely no excuse or justification for any American institution of higher education to provide Farrakhan a platform for his vile expressions of hatred, and refusing to give him such a forum does not constituted censorship, since he obviously has many other venues at which he can spout his nonsense.“

I agree that Universities and especially private ones have the right to establish their own mores in the community and select, reject, promote, or not those that they choose. Some students today might say that if higher Ed has for decades promoted the views and lives of established white Europeans racist slaveholders, then why not allow Farrakhan his views too?

He was speaking on behalf of a group in a certain context of the time and place which, while not justifying the views, perhaps makes it more understandable. Not necessarily much more different than today still reading old white philosophers who we now see were quite misogynistic, racist, bigoted, themselves. Or celebrating founding

Anonymous said...

fathers who owned and raped actual slaves. Why do some continue to get a pass and not others?

Marc Susselman said...

Anonymous,

Repeating the wrongs of the past by validating their re-enactment in the present is not a productive way of resolving and solving them.

Anonymous said...

I see from the ever useful though not necessarily always reliable wikipedia that

David Dukes was an American character actor (1940-2000)

The American white supremacist was David Duke [no s ]

Anent Howard’s comment, I guess he should have said “most Jews . . . who have a presence in the [Black] ghetto” rather than “all Jews . . . “ But surely he isn’t wrong to suggest that there is some anti-Black prejudice among Jews? And surely that has had consequences just as other prejudices have had consequences, often unfair generalising consequences. How often have I, who might be termed a cultural presbyterian, heard my Jewish friends make disparaging remarks about Christians and WASPS? Very often. I’m afraid I just ignore it for the most part, even when they also make remarks about the notorious stinginess of the ‘tribe’ I belong to.

Anonymous said...

PS. I know one swallow does not a summer make, but this article is, perhaps, relevant:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10402659708426083

I've only read the abstract since the rest of it is beyond my reach. Sorry.

the anonymous at 4:46; not any of the other anonymouses

aaall said...

"Why do some continue to get a pass and not others?"

Because fairness is part of that arc with far too shallow a bend.

Generally, weeds are plants out of place, i.e. using discrimination and judgment are inescapable (e.g. California poppies and Siberian kale are desirable in their place but naturalize in my area and sometimes need to be culled. My beloved timber bamboo becomes a weed when a shoot pops up amongst my blueberries). I tolerate the poison hemlock (nice flowers but keep away from any livestock) but the poison oak gets ruthlessly eradicated.

I don't get hosting clowns, thugs, fools, and grifters out of some curious notions as to what constitutes free speech. We know what racist and antisemitic views can too often lead to. Does Ann Coulter or Charlie Kirk really have a university level contribution to knowledge?

s.w., "censor" is somewhat meaningless in the instant context. Folks are free to speak and publish (not to incite or conspire, of course) but there is no obligation to hear, read, or use scarce funds as speakers fees.

LFC said...

Anonymous @ 4:46 p.m.

...surely he [Howard] isn’t wrong to suggest that there is some anti-Black prejudice among Jews?

Generalizations are hazardous, but I don't think in the U.S. there is a higher level of anti-Black prejudice among Jews than among other non-Black groups. On the contrary: many Jews were allied with Blacks in the civil rights movement, and the remnants of that alliance, though it has frayed somewhat over the years, are still visible in many quarters. Part of the problem here is that the U.S. Jewish community is of course not monolithic in politics and attitudes, any more than the Black community is.

Marc Susselman said...

Anonymous at 4:46,

So you think changing the word “all” in Howard’s comment to “most” corrects its error? I don’t know what crowd of Jews you run with, but with the Jews I grew up with in New Jersey, and whom I know in Michigan, most were/are liberals who supported the Civil Rights movement and dO not engage in using insulting epithets for African-Americans. Are there racist Jews? Of course, as there are racists in every ethnic and religious demographic. But to say that “most” Jews are racist towards Blacks is a slander which I dare you to provide statistical proof for, other than your singular anecdotal experience. More Jews supported the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s through 1980s than African-Americans who have spoken out to denounce the anti-Semitism in the African-American community. Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman were killed by members of the Ku Klux Klan in 1964 while they were in Mississippi seeking to protect the right of African-Americans to register to vote. In fact, a statistical study conducted in 2016 indicated that the highest rate of anti-Semitism is in the African-American community (23%) as compared to anti-Semitism in the general population (16%). You unfounded assertion that “most” Jews harbor racist views towards African-Americans is without merit.

LFC said...

@ aaall

The more relevant question, istm, is whether a university should forbid a student group from inviting certain speakers, while allowing other student groups to invite other speakers. In other words, should a university say: the campus is off-limits to speakers x, y and z?

A university (at least a private as opposed to public one, where First Amendment considerations might be less immediately in play) reasonably could, I think, adopt a policy defining "hate speech" as such-and-such, and then decide that speakers whose past record of speech indicates a propensity for hate speech will not be allowed on campus. That would probably cover Farrakhan, for example, or an out-and-out white supremacist who engages in obviously racist speech. (I'm not sure I would wholly agree with the policy, but, depending on how it was worded, I might, and I think it's reasonable, though implementation would probably prove tricky.)

On the other hand, I do not think it wd be reasonable or defensible for a university to decide that "clowns, thugs, fools, and grifters" will be barred from campus. Those labels are much too vague and subjective.

J. Stanley, whose book I mentioned in the previous thread, criticizes the Millian "marketplace of ideas" argument in this context (though I don't really recall all the details of his criticism), but that's not the only argument for free speech. I'm not conversant with most of the recent academic literature on the subject, but a long time ago I read (and still own) Lee Bollinger's The Tolerant Society, which argues basically that the toleration of unpleasant or even offensive speech requires a degree of self-control that has society-wide benefits. The book was published in 1986, so it predates the era of social media, etc. etc.

Anonymous said...

From American Quarterly (2003)

Roberta S. Gold, “ The Black Jews of Harlem: Representation, Identity, and Race, 1920-1939.

accessed at https://ericmazur.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Gold-Black-Jews-of-Harlem.pdf

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Barney Wolff said...

People seem to believe that I favor preventing speakers with noxious views from appearing at campus venues. I thought I was pretty clear that I do not. The question for me is what the university can or should do to make it plain that it does not endorse the speaker's views.

I don't approve of drowning out the speaker with shouts from the audience, or threats of violence. But vigorous action to express disapproval to the university community seems perfectly appropriate.

BL Zebub said...

Congratulations to Prof. Wolff. For once Marc Susselman deigned to actually comment his writing! Imagine that.

If nothing else that most unusual fact suggests that the good professor may be onto something.

RPW touched a nerve and he was right to think long and hard before publishing this piece.

-

There are many arbiters of social acceptability among the readers of this blog. Not all of them are American or Jewish. Ahmed Fares, for instance, speaks for about one and half billion Muslims! :-)

Marc Susselman said...

LFC,

You are correct that a private university, such as each of the Ivy League universities, would have a legal right to refuse to allow any speaker it wishes from appearing on campus, since the Constitution and the First Amendment only applies to public universities and governmental entities generally.

You’re are mistaken, however, in stating that the same right would not apply to a public university, since the First Amendment would restrict what a public university is permitted to do. The provision of the Constitution which would apply in the case of a public university is the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, pursuant to which a public university, such as the University of Massachusetts, would be required to treat all speakers on an equal basis. If the University, for example, allowed David Duke to speak, then it could not prohibit Minister Farrakhan to speak. If, on the other hand, the University allowed you to speak about global politics and international relations, or Prof. Wolff to speak about Karl Marx, Immanuel Kant or Sigmund Freud, it would not be obliged to allow Minister Farrakhan, or David Duke, to speak. In addition, regarding the rights of fraternities and student organizations to invite speakers to the campus, their rights would be governed by the organization’s charter, which could very well prohibit the organization from inviting speakers who disseminate hateful speech based on race, ethnicity or religion.

I fail to understand the claim by some that it would be unfair, unconstitutional, undemocratic, anti-intellectual, etc. for a university, whether public or private, to ban a particular speaker from giving a presentation on campus. As long as the Equal Protection Clause is not violated, I see no reason why even a public university would be obliged to allow Minister Farrakhan, or David Duke, to speak. The goal of universities is supposed to be to educate students, and education entails providing them with information which is objective and valid. Neither Minister Farrakhan nor David Duke would satisfy that criterion. Spewing hate speech based on race, ethnicity or religion is not educational, objective or valid, and does nothing to advance the objective of any legitimate institution of higher education. And prohibiting a speaker from offering his/her racist views on campus is not censoring the speaker, as long as they have other venues on which they can spew their hatred, as do/did Minister Farrakhan and David Duke, et al.

I am looking forward to going to the polls with my daughter today to vote the straight Democratic ticket (I will not tell her how to vote, but I already know her sentiments), and then watch TV as the returns come in. I hope and pray that the polls are wrong. The idea of the Republicans taking over the House, canceling the Jan. 6th investigation and launching investigations of Pelosi, Hunter Biden, etc., sickens and scares me.

LFC said...

Marc
It's been a (very) long time since I took constitutional law. But re the rule that a public univ or other public entity has to treat (potential) speakers equally: hasn't the Supreme Court treated "viewpoint discrimination" mostly as part of First Amendment doctrine rather than equal protection doctrine? And regardless of the doctrinal basis, I think a public univ might have legal problems barring certain speakers and not others, unless it had a specific written exception for hate speech (and even then might face litigation). But I cd be wrong.

As a practical matter, people like Farrakhan and Duke are not being invited to most campuses these days so it's probably mostly a moot point.

s. wallerstein said...

Prohibiting people with toxic ideas from publicly speaking does not inhibit their spread.
That is all the more true in these days of social media. Even if Twitter bans someone like Trump, he and his ilk develop their own alternative social media.

In fact, prohibiting the public expression of certain ideas makes them all the more attractive to a certain sector of the population because those ideas then become "subversive" or "anti-elitist" in their mind.

We're just going to have to learn to live with the fact that a goodly percentage of our fellow human beings have ideas that we find repugnant and undoubtedly they find our ideas to be equally repugnant.

As long as they don't start gassing us, I'm fine.

David Palmeter said...


s. wallerstein

I've long been aware that many of my fellow human beings have ideas that I find repugnant. But it wasn't until Trump arrived on the scene that I realized, to my amazement, that there are so many of them.

Marc Susselman said...

“As long as they don’t start gassing us, I’m fine.”

A lot of Jews in 1935-1941 Germany shared your sentiment. They believed that only crazy Germans would agree with the Nazis’ speech comparing Jews to parasites, and relied on the good sense of the German people to reject the Nazi propaganda. Well, we know now that they did not reject the Nazi propaganda. And Germany has learned from this – espousing Nazi ideology in Germany today is a criminal offense. You think that refusing to give racists a platform to espouse their vile views will simply backfire. You are wrong. We may not, under the 1st Amendment, preclude them from speaking altogether, but we do not have to facilitate their being able to espouse their hateful views by providing them with platforms to do so – that includes encouraging Twitter, Facebook, etc. to suspend the accounts of the purveyors of racism. And it includes supporting universities – public and private – which prohibit them from speaking on college campuses.

Achim Kriechel (A.K.) said...

@ David,
that is very nicely formulated and I must admit that it was similar for me. Currently, I even have the feeling that more and more are running out of the forest.

However, I would assume that many people have held back their convictions as long as they felt in the minority. The globally networked digital platforms, however, are opening all the cellar doors and everything that may have remained underground for generations is suddenly floating to the top.

It seems racism of all forms survives for a very long time, sometimes in the dark, sometimes in the twilight. When it gets light, the Trumps also emerge to harvest and do their own thing.

Marc Susselman said...

LFC,

Responding to your point requires getting a bit into the weeds of 1st Amendment jurisprudence. Implicit in the requirement that governmental entities ensure viewpoint neutrality is the principle of Equal Protection. A city violates both viewpoint neutrality and equal protection if it enacts an ordinance which prohibits billboards which support the right to abortion, but does not prohibit billboards which support right to life. This denies equal protection to the abortion right supporters and would be unconstitutional. An ordinance which prohibits all billboards that exceed 15 ft. by 10 ft. dimensions, regardless of message, is viewpoint neutral and does not violate equal protection.

An example of where the two doctrines merge is the decision in RK Ventures, Inc. v. City of Seattle, 307 F.3d 1045 (9th Cir. 2002). Seattle was pursuing a campaign to reduce crime in the City by prohibiting Seattle nightclubs from playing rap and hip-hop music, which the City contended attracted crime committed by African-Americans, and thereby constituted a legal “nuisance.” The plaintiffs were owners of a Seattle nightclub. The nightclub challenged the City’s policy as violating the First Amendment and Equal Protection, singling out rap and hip-hop music for prohibition, as compared to other rock music. The district court dismissed the lawsuit. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals reversed that ruling, holding that the policy on its face violated both the 1st Amendment and the Equal Protection Clause. It remanded the case to the district court to evaluate an issue of standing.

LFC said...

Marc
Thank you for the answer.

s. wallerstein said...

Marc,

My comment about not worrying as long as they're not gassing us is a metaphor. I didn't study law, I was an English major. For someone who proclaims his love of poetry as you do, you don't seem to get metaphors.

There's a level of daily anti-semitism that I've learned to live with as, I imagine, that blacks learn to live with a certain level of racism and women with a certain level of sexism. Even if that increases a bit, I still can live with it.

I lived 17 years under the Pinochet dictatorship. I participated actively, full-time in the human rights movement, but life goes on. People fall in love and fall out of love, they have babies, they get sick, they get well, they die of natural causes.

If the U.S. goes fascist, as it may, I suggest that people do what they can to resist that, donating money to anti-fascist groups, using whatever professional or life skills they have to aid such groups, supporting alternative political forces, but life does go on and I doubt that a second Trump government will be a rerun of the 3rd Reich with gas chambers for dissidents or blacks or whoever. I'll bet money on that.

Life goes on. Enjoy it. Don't alienate too much of yourself into political causes. It's not healthy.

I've discovered that in Youtube there are a variety of videos with names like 3 hours of Mozart for relaxation or 4 hours of Mozart for study and concentration or 6 hours of Mozart for whatever. I put them on all day and they do wonders. With or without Trump we'll always have Mozart. As Nietzsche said, without music life would be a mistake.

Enough for today. I hope for the best possible election results for you people.



Michael said...

^Lovely comment, thanks for that.

Marc Susselman said...

"As long as they don't start gasssing us."

Some metaphor.

Fritz Poebel said...

MS/SW: I don't think that SW's graphic statement is a metaphor. I don't know what technical grammatical/usage category it falls under, but it doesn't look like a metaphor to me. Anyway, I suspect that SW is invoking outrageous hyperbole just to make a contrarian point (which point I don't really get). He's far too decent a person (or, rather, persona) to actually mean what he explicitly says and alludes to.